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January 16, 2011

TOWN HALL MEETINGS

QUESTION: There have been issues that residents don't feel comfortable bringing up at the board meeting (open forum). A resident thought of a town hall meeting to discuss these problems. Can we hold this meeting in the clubhouse? Should we call it a "gathering" rather than a meeting? Is it illegal for us to gather to discuss problems we are having with our association?

ANSWER: Members have the right to use the clubhouse to peaceably assemble and discuss any matter of interest to other members. Wikipedia describes the right to assemble as:
Freedom of assembly, sometimes used interchangeably with the freedom of association, is the individual right to come together and collectively express, promote, pursue and defend common interests. The right to freedom of association is recognized as a human right, a political freedom and a civil liberty.
Advertising for Meeting. You can call it a gathering but there is nothing wrong with "meeting" provided your invitation does not wrongly imply it is an official meeting of the membership. You are also allowed to advertise the meeting through mailings and postings on bulletin boards (provided the bulletin board postings stay within the association's published rules). What you cannot do is transact business, i.e., amend documents, vote on special assessments, elect or remove directors, etc. For votes on such matters, you must petition the board to call a special meeting of the membership.

SKYLIGHTS

QUESTION: Is the skylight in a condominium considered part of the roof? Is it an association repair or a homeowner repair?

ANSWER: It depends on who installed it and what your governing documents require.

Original Construction. If the skylight is part of the development's original construction, it is part of the common area roof and is the association's responsibility to repair and maintain unless your CC&Rs state otherwise. Sometimes CC&Rs specifically assign skylight maintenance to the unit owner.

Owner Addition. If the skylight was installed without association approval, the owner could be forced to remove it. If an owner installed the skylight with association approval, typically the owner agrees to repair and maintain the skylight. Where this becomes a problem is with subsequent owners when it starts leaking. The subsequent owner will argue that he did not install the skylight and will point to the CC&Rs that the association is responsible for maintaining the roofs.

Covenant to Maintain. To avoid disputes related to owner-installed skylights, we record a covenant signed by the owner at the time the skylight is installed. The covenant makes the owner and all subsequent owners responsible for repairing and maintaining the skylight. If the owner refuses to sign the covenant, installation of the skylight is not approved.

FEEDBACK

Public Employee Pensions & State Deficit. A lot of good comments pro and con continue to pour in on this subject. Let's hope our new governor and legislature resolve California's massive deficit in a fair and cost-effective manner.


Late Charges
. If I miss payment number one I get a late charge. If payment number two is assessed and I make a single payment, my association applies it toward my first assessment. That leaves the second assessment in arrears and another late charge is levied. So until I get 100% caught up I get a late charge every month. -David A.


RESPONSE: The practice is lawful. The Davis-Stirling Act addresses the priority of payments by delinquent owners as follows:
(a) A regular or special assessment and any late charges, reasonable fees and costs of collection, reasonable attorney's fees, if any, and interest, if any, as determined in accordance with Section 1366, shall be a debt of the owner of the separate interest at the time the assessment or other sums are levied. . . .

(b) Any payments made by the owner of a separate interest toward the debt set forth, as required in subdivision (a), shall first be applied to the assessments owed, and, only after the assessments owed are paid in full shall the payments be applied to the fees and costs of collection, attorney's fees, late charges, or interest. . . . (Civil Code §1367.1)
The statute does not prohibit associations from adopting collection policies that apply payments to the oldest outstanding assessments.

Support FHA Loans. Last week's feedback about FHA financing reflects a short-sighted viewpoint. Every real estate transaction involves both a buyer and a seller, and for HOA properties the seller is a member of the association. The ability to sell to an FHA buyer increases the value of the property being sold by expanding the market for that unit. It is a fiduciary responsibility of the HOA board to attempt to maintain property values for the members. -Vaughn H.

Oppose FHA Loans. I agree with last week's feedback. Why should I support one buyer so they can put only 3 1/2% down . . . just to walk away from the property in two years? Our HOA is 19 years old and has had only 2 foreclosures because most people put 10%+ down on their property when they moved in. -Maureen C.


  
Sincerely,
 
   Adrian J. Adams, Esq.
   Adams Kessler PLC

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