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Story of the Collapse of Lehman Brothers by Lawrence G. McDonald. It is a
riveting story.
SATELLITE
DISHES ON
COMMON AREA ROOFS
QUESTION:
Civil Code 1376(b)(2) says in part: "...that has a diameter or diagonal
measurements of 36 inches or less on a separate interest owned by another."
Questions and confusion keep arising on the interpretation of the phrase in bold
lettering. We have some condominiums whose balconies cannot receive a satellite signal. The owners of these
units want to place dishes on the common area roof. They claim the wording of
1376 allows them to do this as the roof is "a separate interest owned by
another." Are they correct?
ANSWER:
No, they are not correct. The term “separate interest owned by another” refers to the portion of the
project owned exclusively by another member of the association which, in the
case of condominium projects, is air space.Civil Code 1351(l)(2)&(f).
The portions of the project owned by the association are referred to as “common
area.”Civil Code 1351(b). Therefore,
Civil Code §1376(b)(2) would not give
residents the right to install a satellite dish on a
common area roof.
Federal Preemption. Moreover, parts of Civil Code
§1376 have been preempted by the Telecommunications Act of 1996 (47 USC §
§151-615b) and Over-the-Air Reception Devices Rule (OTARD
rule) (47 CFR §1.4000), which provides that while owners have a right
install satellite dishes on their separate interest or exclusive use common
areas (i.e. balconies, patios), they do not have a right to install them on common area roofs.
Roof Damage. Finally, due to possible damage to roofs
and potential liability from injuries, most associations do not
allow the installation of antennas on common area roofs. A small
percentage of our clients allow installation in designated roof areas that have
been prepped for antennas so as to avoid damage. Even so, some impose strict
restrictions on when and how installations occur, and some require signed
releases from owners. NOTE: Such restrictions do not apply to single family
homes and do not necessarily apply to
townhomes.
FEEDBACK

Late Charges. I believe
your opinion regarding late payments is misleading at best. The law says that
assessments are late 15 days after the due date. Nothing in the law addresses
the issue of postmarks. May I advise you that credit card and mortgage companies
to not accept a postmark as acceptable dates of delinquency. If you’ve missed
their grace period, too bad. -Ed V.
Late Charges #2. In our
industry most times, post mark dates are not relied on. Since a vast majority
of our business is through lock box services at banks, the date posted to a
homeowner's account is the date received by the bank. Also, many homeowners
choose to use banking on line for paying their assessments, and once again it is
when the payment is received by the bank. And finally, for those payments sent
by an over night delivery service, it is based on when the payment is received.
-Lisa E.
RESPONSE: From the feedback on this subject, there seems to be a
split in our industry on when late charges can be applied. Some use the postmark
and some do not. I will poll others in the industry to see if there is a
majority opinion on the subject. -Adrian
Taxes. While associations wouldn’t owe property taxes, there frequently are special district
user fees put on by, for instance, the water district which I understand the
association does need to pay. -Marla H.
RESPONSE: Good point.
Old
Decade. Please do not perpetuate sloppy thinking and cheapen your excellent
Newsletter -- US citizens suffer more than most from poor arithmetic "skills" --
a century or decade starts with 1, ends with 10. That 's why we have ten fingers
instead of a zero finger and 9 other digits. You uphold the law, so please
uphold the laws of logic & arithmetic! -LeRoy M.
New Decade. If a
decade is ten years, and the year 2000 (for instance) counts as a year (why
wouldn’t it?), then 10 years takes us to the end of 2009. -Marla H.
RESPONSE: One of the research attorneys in my office did a quick
search of the internet and found an article
that does a good job of summarizing
both sides of the "decade" debate.
Wikipedia also makes arguments pro and con. I'm hanging tough with the new decade
argument, i.e., 2010 is the start of a new decade. -Adrian
Bankruptcy. In
chapter 7 the trustee does not want us to file a proof of claim unless they ask
us to. Your response gives the impression that we are to always file a claim in
a 7 which is not true. Also, in a chapter 7 why would you file for relief from
stay to pursue post petition?? In a chapter 7 it just stops the collection
process until completed which is just a few months so a relief from stay is not
necessary in a 7. If the lien was on the property before the sale and the owner
is keeping the property the association can recover pre and post petition debt.
If the lien was not on the property in time then the pre is wiped out but the
owner is responsible to pay the post until they are no longer the owner of the
property. If the chapter is a 13 and the owner is keeping the property but not
paying the post petition debt then and only then should the association consider
a relief from stay AFTER they verify that the lender has not initiated
foreclosure or seeking relief. -Beverlee G.
RESPONSE: Actually, my response was aimed more at getting legal
advice from lawyers. They can better assess legal issues. Each bankruptcy must be
evaluated on its own merits. Were liens filed? How much is owed? What is the
potential for recovery? What will it cost? How long will it take? What form of
bankruptcy was filed? Board members who rely on managers for legal advice will
likely lose the protection of the
Business Judgment Rule since an ordinarily prudent
person would not seek
legal advice from a non-lawyer. When it comes to
nonjudicial liens and foreclosures, collection companies (such as SBS Lien
Services, ASAP Collection Services, Association Lien Services, and Witkin &
Neal, to name a few) are also good sources of information.