For California's Community Associations July 18, 2010

TIE VOTE

QUESTION: If a board vote results in a tie because the president abstains from a vote, can the president at a later date cast her vote and break the tie?

ANSWER: The president cannot, after the vote was taken and the meeting adjourned, cast a vote to break the tie. The motion failed when the board deadlocked 2-2. However, under limited circumstances, the matter may be brought up for reconsideration. At that point, the president can cast her vote.

ARE WE A PUD?

QUESTION: How do we know if we are a PUD as well as a CID??? How do I know whether I live in a PUD and whether that affects how the HOA acts under Davis-Stirling?

ANSWER: A PUD (Planned Use Development) is a category of common-interest developments defined by Civil Code 1351(k). With condominiums, members own air space (their unit) plus an undivided interest in the structure surrounding their airspace. In a PUD, members typically own their residential structures and the lots upon which they were built. PUD common areas, which may consist of streets, recreational facilities, clubhouses, etc., may be owned in common by the owners or may deeded to the association.

Residential structures in a PUD might be free-standing homes or may consist of two or more townhomes separated by party walls. With townhouse construction, owners might own a traditional looking lot with fenced front and back yards or they may own a "footprint" lot, i.e., the dirt upon which the structure sits and nothing more.

Maintenance. Maintenance responsibilities in PUDs can vary considerably. In some, owners are responsible for everything on their lots--all structures and all landscaping. In others, the association takes care of the landscaping. In some, usually those with townhouse construction, the association is responsible for exterior structure maintenance such as painting and roofs. The variations depend on how the developer drafted the CC&Rs.

HOA Authority. The HOA's authority in condominium projects and PUDs are similar. Each enforces the governing documents and each maintains the common areas. The specifics are determined by the governing documents. -Matt Gardner, Esq.

PRESIDENTIAL FEEDBACK

Inexperienced President. I am so offended by your description of our President (that he had no prior management training or executive experience). Let's see. He attended the best university for undergraduate and graduate studies - and graduated. And he can think! This is exactly what we need in a President. -Diane W.

RESPONSE: Neither presidential candidate, John McCain or Barack Obama, had management training or executive experience. That was the point. If we can elect presidents without prior experience (most of whom do well in office), homeowners can elect condo boards without prior experience. Doing so is not, as the writer called it, a travesty. To be a board member, the best qualifications are common sense and a desire to do well (some humor wouldn't hurt either). Directors can pick up everything else they need through their managers, the association's legal counsel and classes offered by the Community Associations Institute (CAI). There are eight CAI chapters in California, all of them offer classes. You can find them in the Business Directory. -Adrian

Humor. I have to say that I completely love your sense of humor when it comes to some of your newsletter responses. My favorite thus far involved your comments regarding prayer at board meetings at God living in a gated community (I actually still laugh at this one till this day). I also, found your most recent comment regarding President Obama's on the job training to be very humorous as well. I find your newsletters to be very interesting and informative; keep up the good work. -Chad C.

RESPONSE: Gracias! I like it when readers get it. There are always a few who are quick to take offense and send flaming e-mails. As one sage noted, associations are full of willing homeowners, some willing to volunteer and the rest willing to criticize. -Adrian

Untrained Boards, [In last week's newsletter] Pauline raises a good point [about untrained boards]. However, as you noted, legislation to require HOA boards to attend training have failed. This is largely due to the large push of Labor Associations such as Police, Fire, Plumbers, along with other non-profit organizations. In these organizations, members pay dues. To limit a member's right to run for office is a violation of Federal & State law. To enact such restrictions to HOA's would create an odd-man-out type situation where one type of non-profit is isolated by statute. That said, I would think, an HOA could enact a CC&R, by majority vote, requiring board members to attend management training, at the HOA's expense. Thus eliminating any legislative need. -Joseph L.

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